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If I Say "Voice," You Run Away Screaming, Right?

Today we have another installment of “RC attempts to sum up an AQC chat for those who couldn’t make it.”

The topic this week was Voice. When it was suggested, Mindy McGinnis (BBC) said, “That’s pretty much impossible to discuss. Okay, let’s go for it!” (I may be paraphrasing.) She also shared an experience that pretty well encapsulates why it’s such a maddening topic for writers.

Mindy was watching an agent/editor panel at a conference. A writer asked for a definition of voice, and not to say you know it when you see it.

The agent grabbed the mic and said, “I know it when I see it.”

So what is this elusive thing called Voice? Mindy did some leg-work and found this from agent Natalie Fischer:

Language is diction: the word choices, the literal language of nationality. Style is the form: short, choppy, flowing, poetic, lyrical. Voice is the personality, the person behind the words that makes the reader forget about the author, and dive into a life. It’s what you remember about the characters long after you’ve forgotten their names.

And then there’s this from agent Rachelle Gardner:

It’s the unfettered, non-derivative, unique conglomeration of your thoughts, feelings, passions, dreams, beliefs, fears and attitudes, coming through in every word you write.

Okay, that’s all well and good. How do we do that? Again from Ms. Fischer, her thoughts on what not to do:

I think the biggest mistake is to try and show voice through style or language. Using heavy slang or methods like “Southern dialogue” are annoying, not effective. Voice is a point of view, a perspective that is unique to only one person. It has emotion, history, a sense of place, and senses. These things are shown in unison with style and language, but not reliant on them to be clear.

Those are some words from the experts we used as a launching point. As usual, we went in a lot of directions from there. I’ll try to hit a few highlights.

Character Voice vs Authorial Voice
Characters each have their own voice (should, anyway). Here you’re primarily talking about dialogue. Then there’s your voice as an author. That shows throughout the whole work (and to varying degrees, across works). Narrative voice can be a combination of the two, particularly when you’re writing in first person.

Good vs Bad
This is tricky. Personally, I think there’s a somewhat objective level of has/doesn’t have distinctive voice. Beyond that, there’s the more subjective voice you do/don’t find engaging/enjoyable/compelling. Several times in chat, someone said, “I read this bestseller, and it had NO voice.” Or, “This book had no voice, but I still read because of the plot/characters/something else.”

I haven’t read the books they’re referring to, but I strongly suspect those books have distinctive voice. That reader just didn’t like the voice.

So is it possible to have a story without voice? Tricky, but I think so. I’ve seen it, primarily in some student writing. Nothing technically “wrong,” but it reads dead. The words are getting in the way of the story’s life. That’s okay—they’re still learning.

Should We Worry?
One AQCer posited that we don’t need to worry about Voice. We need to worry about everything else—grammar, structure, plot, characterization, etc. If we do all that, the voice will be there.

Some of us had a hard time deciding whether we agreed or disagreed with that. Certainly all of those things play into establishing the voice of a piece. But personally, I believe voice is greater than the sum of its parts.

Worry isn’t all that productive, though. So worry? Not so much. Be mindful of? Definitely.

Can We Learn It?
This is an argument that goes back to my Authonomy days. There are those who believe voice can be taught, and thus learned. Others (and I tend to fall in this camp) think voice is innate.

So you have it or you don’t, and if you don’t, too bad? Not exactly. I just think of it less as a taught/learned thing and more a matter of development. We all have “voice potential” inside us. We need to develop it, find out how to uncover it. How to get those pesky words out of the way and let the story live.

As usual, I probably missed several salient points, but that’s the gist of the discussion. Do you have any further thoughts on voice?

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A Primer on Critique Partners … and Maybe Dating

Last Monday, we had one of our weekly chats on AgentQuery Connect (9pm Eastern, come for great writerly conversations). The topic was critique partners—choosing and using them—which seems to have been popular around the blogosphere in the last week. Nevertheless, because some AQCers missed the chat, I’m going to go ahead with a revamped recap.

Being critique partners is a lot like establishing and maintaining other relationships. In fact, it’s a lot like dating, when you think about it. Here are some Dos and Don’ts.


Another thing to remember is that the early days of critique partnering are like the early days of dating. You’ll likely need to be on your best behavior as you get to know each other’s styles of critiquing, figure out what works for you.
With any luck, someday you’ll be like Mindy McGinnis and me. I’m pretty sure we’re at the “old married couple” stage where we can pretty much say anything as bluntly as we’d like. We know the love is there, and we know our own weaknesses, so there’s no need to tiptoe around. 😉
What tips do you have for making a great critique-partner connection?

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